the pentagon was involved in some way here, leon panetta okaying the use of special equipment used for monitoring. that would have meant that military personnel were also on site but were not part of the takedown. it shows you that concern for this little boy went almost all the way to the top of this administratio administration. >> i know we don't know exact details of how this went down but authorities said they observed this man holding a gun. do we know how they were able to actually observe him? we've been told all along they've been communicating through this pvc piping. >> right. and apparently they've been doing a lot more than just talking through a pipe. we have been told now that there may have been surveillance of some sort, video surveillance. we have also heard maybe the use of drones would be part of that surveillance. there was a lot of high-tech equipment brought to bear. hundreds maybe at some point all surrounding this area and all in some way taking part in the operatio operation. >> is there any understanding of why dykes took this boy off the bus? >> reporter: th